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We must pay pictorial tribute to this past week’s astoundingly outstanding comet landing. After a decade-long odyssey, the European Space Agency mission to land
a shutterbugging robot probe (here at Puzzleria! we call that “piggybacking”)
onto the Comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko, has been
accomplished.
The comet, which is hurtling sunward, reportedly resembles a rubber duck in shape. (I guess that would mean a rubber duck that exercises regularly and watches its diet.)
And so, this
amazing astronomical feat (and we at Puzzleria! are specialists in (g)astronomical
feats of puzzledom) has left me with two marks of “eggs-clamation” on my face…
that is, a pair of crisply cooked and archly cocked bacon-strip eyebows hovering over wide-open-with-wonder oval
eggshell scleras surrounding yellow yolky irises.
Will Shortz’s National Public Radio “four clock faces” puzzle from last week, however, has left me just with egg on my face... and not sunny-side-up egg... rather, runny-side-down egg.
Yes, if I were the late John Entwistle (Who?), the yoke would be on me. I pretty much guaranteed that Will Shortz would reveal an answer different from what most bloggers seemed to be expecting from him. But I was wrong as rainbows in a black-and-white film.
Not to beat a dead ox (oh, okay, let’s go ahead and beat a dead ox!) but Will's November 2 offering read:
Write down the following four times: 3:00, 6:00, 12:55 and 4:07. These are the only times on a clock that share a certain property (without repeating oneself). What property is this?
The answer Will revealed on NPR’s November 9 Weekend Edition Sunday is that the position of the hands on those four clock faces resemble the Roman numerals L (3:00), I (6:00), V (12:55) and C (4:07).
That is the answer many solvers across the blogosphere suspected Will would reveal, although he received only 50 correct entries. It is a clever idea, the angle of the clock hands forming letters.
But what bugs me about the puzzle (and led me to believe a different, and perhaps better, answer was in the offing) is the wording in the following sentence:
These are the ONLY times on a clock that share a certain property (without repeating oneself). {Uppercase and boldness added for emphasis.}
First off, I have no clue whatsoever what the parenthetical “without repeating oneself” might mean.
But my main gripe is that these are not “the only times” that share the property of forming Roman numerical letters. To wit, 3:00 Looks Like an L, but so does 3:01 or 2:59. 6:00 is a fine I, but midnight or noon are also I-shaped. 12:55 is a V, but so are 12:54, 12:56 or, for a “wide-stance” V, 1:50. And 4:07 (which is a “pointy C” resembling a V rotated 90 degrees clockwise) might just as well be 1:20, 1:19, 4:06, 4:08, etc.
The remaining Roman numeral letters X, D and M cannot be formed by clock hands (unless, as commenter Paul mused tongue-in-cheekily on the AESAP blog, the second hand somehow comes into play!) Indeed, the only other uppercase letter of the alphabet formable by two hands is probably a “pointy J” (10:00).
Please let me know if I am missing something. I often do.
That said (and vented), I had a blast solving this puzzle, the process of which prompted me to create the “piggyback puzzle” titled “Four Clocks Redux” posted on last Friday’s November 7 Puzzleria!
I have done the same type of piggybacking with this week’s easier-to-solve NPR puzzle. The NPR puzzle reads:
Name a well-known clothing company. Move each of its letters three spaces earlier in the alphabet and rearrange the result. You'll name something you don't want in an article of clothing. What is it?
My piggyback puzzle reads:
Porcidorsal Slice:
“Walruses, Tigers and Golden Bears, Oh My!”
A Tiger, Walrus and Golden Bear might well sport apparel manufactured by the the well-known clothing company in the NPR puzzle. Name something (in two words) that the members of this menagerie do for fun and profit. Move each letter of what they do three spaces earlier in the alphabet and rearrange the result to form something historically “linked” to both “Paradise Lost” and “Blood Transfused.” What do they do, and what do you form?
And how do you do? Fine, we hope. And we hope you’ll do just fine too on this ensuing menu of spicy puzzle slicery:
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Tragic tales of two flights
In the 1970s, news outlets covered a story about an
object that might have been visible against Alaskan skies. In the 1990s, news
outlets covered a story about an object that was definitely visible against Alaskan skies
(and skies elsewhere). Each object had a tail, and each object’s flight was tainted
by tragedy.
Remove the final letter of the name of
a person associated with the earlier flight. Change the remaining second-last
and last letters to their mirror images and delete the curvy ends of their
descending tails. (Important! Use the font in which this puzzle is printed, not the Times New Roman font that is normal on this web page, and is used in the second part of this sentence!) Replace a space with a punctuation mark. The result is the
name of the 1990s object.
What are the names of the person and the
1990s object?
(Hint: A person associated with
National Public Radio is also associated with the person in the 1970s tragedy.)
Rabbit-eared pigs
What current television show, if it is
punctuated and spaced appropriately, might name a possible advertising campaign
sponsored by the National Pork Producers Council?
Night Train Lane? Broadway Joe?
Two professional athletes – one retired, the other active – have
the same last name but are not related. Both
were first-round draft picks of professional teams. In the course of competition, each
achieved the same coveted honor (you know, something like an NPR lapel pin!). Their
collegiate team nicknames both begin with a B.
One of the athletes has a three-syllable nickname. The first two
syllables, when spoken aloud, sound very similar to, but not exactly like, the
other athlete’s first name.
Who are these athletes?
(Hint: A two-word summation of all
vowels in both players’ last names is often used as a playground taunt that is
an alternative to a taunt involving Coke bottles.)
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I thought that last week, not repeating oneself meant not both 3:00 am and 3:00 pm.
ReplyDeleteExcept for the nickname thing, I have a potential SS answer. One of the college nicknames might be descriptive of the vowels if you can buy them for $0.25.
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DeleteDavid,
DeleteRegarding your “without repeating oneself” theory, now that makes some sense to me. I’ll wager that’s what Will meant. I never even thought of that, even after solving the puzzle (which I had convinced myself I had not really solved).
It sounds to me as if you have solved the Sporty Slice. If you bought the 25-cent vowels from Vanna with a two-dollar bill (your bill of choice!) and told her to “Keep a 25-percent tip for yourself Sweetie, but don’t tell Pat!” Vanna would then return two particularly fitting coins to you in change.
Better yet, you could then “roll over” that chickenfeedy chump change to buy four frognabs (see ron’s EXACT CHANGE link from his November 13, 10:46 AM comment in last week’s Puzzleria!) from Vanna and still have enough left over to tip her a bit more than 10 percent...
Wait, you say you can’t buy frognabs from Vanna, only vowels?! Okay then… never mind.
LegoRosannaVanna
I believe the Sporty Slice is mine (no draft picks in squash or tennis. . .).
ReplyDeleteBut I believe I heard it had been a tad drafty in your neck of the mountains lately. In my neck of the the lowlands, frac sand mines are "Man's Favorite Sport?"
DeleteI've also heard one can tune a piano but one cannot tuna fish. But if one can pick a squash can one also piccolo-hanging fruit, a Plutonic pluot perhaps? (Squashes and pluots are very underrated foods.)
Tennis? Somewhere in her neck of the heavens, Judy Garland is getting over her bent tennis elbow.
LegoPiccolambda
Yes, unbelievably cold here since Monday at 10 a.m. Someone hit the quick freeze switch. 15 degrees F now but we got down to -5 F or lower during the week.
DeleteHearing PLUOTS twice in one week made me smile. Thanks for that, Lego and Paul PLUOT at PEOTS. Sounds like a title ;-)?
Originally, I was half-right on the SS. I didn't have the current player but I do now. Got the correct current player this morning on my run here in Columbus, which I am visiting for a niece's wedding.
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DeleteDavid,
DeleteCongrats on your SSolving, and congrats to your niece. And, how are your knees holding up, given all your running miles? Are your training for a "-thon" of some type?
LegoCartilegeLambdamage
My wife and I are running the California International Marathon in Sacramento on December 7. My knees are fine, good running genes, I guess.
DeleteThere's a supermarket chain that you've probably heard of, even f there's not one in your immediate area. Two words. Take either word, drop the first and last letters, and write the remaining letters in reverse order (exercising flexibility regarding case). Then, turn it upside-down, and translate into a different language to get the answer to PS.
ReplyDeleteSemi-random musical associations: Steve Miller Band, Little Anthony, Cyndi Lauper, Ramsey Lewis
Porkpie hat???
SS seems to be well covered. That's good. The only athlete I could come up with (satisfying the hint, but few, if any, of the other constraints) apparently could consume prodigious quantities of alcohol -- but that and a quarter will get you a consonant.
Paul,
DeleteI am a lummox flummoxed by your comments. Is your PS-related supermarket have any connection at all to the Pearls of Swinedom Slice?
Hemi-semi ram-dumb disassociations: (Pompatus, Mr. Miller? Or a bird? ) (Imperials?) (CL’s song title that is echoed by Hanson’s one-hit?) (Trio?)
(PPH? Ad campaign? Buster Keaton?)
Ned Nihilistic, the pitcher who thew nothing but shutouts, but who between innings nipped nothing but gin? Tim I’mimbibing, the “hurler” who threw nothing other than up?
LegoLummox
Indeed, Lego, the supermarket to which I refer is Piggly Wiggly. Extracting iggl, rewriting as LggI, and inverting, I get 1667, which is, of course, Arabic for MDCLXVII.
DeleteLittle Anthony and the Imperials recorded Shimmy Shimmy <◊<◊ Bop, Cyndi Lauper recorded She-bop, Boz Scaggs played with Steve Miller, the Ramsey Lewis Trio played Wade in the Water, and Wade Boggs played third base. John Riggins played football and drank a lot, according to his Wikipedia page.
Porkpie hat? A "hog tam"! (not one of my best efforts)
For CS, I've looked for, but couldn't find any name for the "object that might have been visible against Alaskan skies," and having a tail. Only an engine-name and number.
ReplyDeleteAs for the connected name, for your manipulation to work requires that you're using the right font. Look up this person's name on Wikipedia, and the top-of-the-page title is definitely in a non-cooperative font! Start reading the page, however, and you see a cooperative font.
Enya_and_Weird_Al_fan,
DeleteThanks for your fantastic heads-up about the importance of fonts. I obviously pay not enough attention to their differences! I just now tried to salvage the CS puzzle by changing its font to one that works, and inserting a parenthetical clarification. My greatest gratitude to you.
As for your futile search to “find any name for the ‘object that might have been visible against Alaskan skies,’ and having a tail. Only an engine-name and number,” are you referring to the 1970s object or 1990s object?
Lego…
Well, obviously I was referring to the 1970's object, since the 1990's object definitely has a name, which you get when you do that manipulation (provided you're working in a cooperative font, of course!)
DeleteEnya_and_Weird_Al_fan,
DeleteBut the puzzle does not require the solver to know the name of the object involved in the 1970s flight, only a person associated with that eariler-of-the-two flights. Right?
Lego...
I know. It's just that CS starts, "In the 1970s, news outlets covered a story about an object that might have been visible against Alaskan skies." While it's true that you do not ask for the name of this object, some readers might nevertheless be expecting that it would behoove them to know the name of this object to which that opening sentence of CS refers; that's all.
DeletePoint well taken, Enya_and_Weird_Al_fan.
DeleteAs a puzzle forger, it behooves me to be more mindful of my fonts as well as my feints… even, and perhaps especially, when those feints are unintentional. It may be acceptable to toss a red herring or two onto the puzzle pot, but dumping in a whole mess makes for an unappetizing puzzle.
Or, to met mixaphors, whether a puzzle turns into an old gray mare or a beautiful thoroughbred is in the hands of the behoover. (As J. Edgar ascended to his FBI office throne, and Herbert ascended to his oval office throne, both said, “It’s good to be Hoover!”)
LegoVillageSmithy
I have all but SS. I am not much of a sports fan. The only two athletes I can think of with the same last names are Shaquille O'Neal & Jermaine O'Neal!
ReplyDeleteron,
DeleteNice job solving all but the Sporty Slice. I am confident you could solve it if you had time (that is, didn’t have a life). Tour O’Neal hoopsters satisfy many of the criteria of the puzzle.
The Hint I gave about my athletes’ shared last name was a bit too obscure, I think. I should have instead hinted: There are only two vowels in the athletes’ shared last name, and they are the same vowel. A two-word description of all vowels in their two last names combined is often used as a playground taunt that is an alternative to a taunt involving Coke bottles.
The Friday comments posted by David and me at the beginning of this week’s thread serendipitously veered into another unintentional hint (on my part, anyway) to the names of the athletes in this puzzle. (David might have been aware of it though.)
He wrote, cleverly as usual: “One of the college nicknames might be descriptive of the vowels if you can buy them for $0.25.” I riffed on that “buy-a-vowel” notion in my response to David, bringing Wheel of Fortune’s Vanna (White) and even Pat (Sajak) into my mix (I did not mention proto-letter-turner Susan Stafford or proto-emcee/final-wheel-spinner Chuck Woolery).
Anyway, another person who has a major connection to “Wheel” also shares the same surname as our two athletes.
But, as you said, you’re not much of a sports fan. And, I’ll bet you are more of a Jeopardy! Fan than a Wheel fan. But that’s okay if that’s the case because the Wheel-connected person also has a major connection to Jeopardy!
LegoFabulousPrizes!
In the case of POSS, I actually like the show. I think the show is to <a certain fictional character> as <a recent past television show> was to <another fictional character that's in, let's say the same franchise as the 1st character>.
ReplyDeleteThis week’s answers (given in two posts):
ReplyDeletePorcidorsal Slice:
“Walruses, Tigers and Golden Bears, Oh My!”
A Tiger, Walrus and Golden Bear might well sport apparel manufactured by the the well-known clothing company in the NPR puzzle. Name something (in two words) that the members of this menagerie do for fun and profit. Move each letter of what they do three spaces earlier in the alphabet and rearrange the result to form something historically “linked” to both “Paradise Lost” and “Blood Transfused.” What do they do, and what do you form?
Answer:
Professional golfers Tiger Woods, Craig Stadler (nicknamed “the Walrus” … he must have been the fifth Beatle on their Magical Mystery Tour album) and Jack Nicklaus (nicknamed the “Golden Bear”) PLAY GOLF for fun and profit. Moving those letters three spaces earlier in the alphabet results in: MIXV DLIC, which can be rearraged to form MDCLXVII, the Roman numeral for 1667, the year John Milton sold the copyright to “Paradise Lost” and the first blood transfusion was performed.
Celestial Slice
Tragic tales of two flights
In the 1970s, news outlets covered a story about an object that might have been visible against Alaskan skies. In the 1990s, news outlets covered a story about an object that was definitely visible against Alaskan skies (and skies elsewhere). Each object had a tail, and each object’s flight was tainted by tragedy.
Remove the final letter of the name of a person associated with the earlier flight. Change the remaining second-last and last letters to their mirror images and delete the curvy ends of their descending tails. Replace a space with a punctuation mark. The result is the name of the 1990s object.
What are the names of the person and the 1990s object?
(Hint: A person associated with National Public Radio is also associated with the person in the 1970s tragedy.)
Answer:
Hale Boggs (father NPR news analyst Cokie Roberts)
Hale-Bopp (comet)
The 1972 flight ended tragically when a Cessna 310C aircraft disappeared while flying over southeast Alaska. Hale Boggs and three others on board, and the aircraft, have never been found.
The tragedy associated with the Comet Hale-Bopp is the 1997 mass suicide of 39 members of the Heaven’s Gate cult.
Pearls Of Swinedom Slice
Rabbit-eared pigs
What current television show, if it is punctuated and spaced appropriately, might name a possible advertising campaign sponsored by the National Pork Producers Council?
Answer:
The Fox Network television show Gotham van be spaced and punctuated to form the advertising campaign “Got ham?”
(Enya_and_Weird_Al_fan gives “Gotham” a thumbs-up, I have heard others say good things about the show also.)
LegoSeeBelowForMoreAnswers
Answers (continued), clues and loose ends:
DeleteSporty Slice
Night Train Lane? Broadway Joe?
Two professional athletes – one retired, the other active – have the same last name but are not related. Both were first-round draft picks of professional teams. In the course of competition, each achieved the same coveted honor (you know, something like an NPR lapel pin!). Their collegiate team nicknames both begin with a B.
One of the athletes has a three-syllable nickname. The first two syllables, when spoken aloud, sound very similar to, but not exactly like, the other athlete’s first name.
Who are these athletes?
(Hint: A two-word summation of all vowels in both players’ last names is often used as a playground taunt that is an alternative to a taunt involving Coke bottles.)
Answer:
Archie Griffin, retired, was a running back (often called a “halfback” back when he was active) for the Ohio State Buckeyes, winning two Heisman trophies in the process.
Robert Griffin III, who currently plays quarterback for the Washington Redskins, won a Heisman Trophy while playing his college ball for the Baylor Bears. His nickname is RG3.
“RG,” when spoken aloud, sounds similar to “Archie.”
(The Hint: the summation of all vowels in both players’ last names is “four I’s” {that is, two I’s per Griffin}: “Four eyes” is a playground taunt directed at one’s visually impaired classmates who must wear glasses. Greatly impaired vision often requires students to wear glasses with thick lenses. These are sometimes called “Coke-bottle” glasses.
In his November 14, 9:12 AM comment, David noted, “One of the college nicknames might be descriptive of the vowels if you can buy them for $0.25.”
That is, four I’s (eyes) at a quarter apiece would cost a dollar, so they would be “buck-I’s,” echoing the (Ohio State) Buckeyes, the team nickname of Archie Griffin’s alma mater.
I responded, “If you bought the 25-cent vowels from Vanna with a two-dollar bill and told her to keep a 25-percent tip for herself, she would then return two particularly fitting coins to you in change.”
That is to say, after she pocketed her quarter tip (25 percent of a buck), she would owe you 75 cents in change, and so would likely give you a “quarter back,” RG3’s position, and a “half (dollar) back,” Archie Griffin’s position.
Better yet, I continued, you could use that quarter and half dollar (75 cents) to buy four frognabs from Vanna and still have enough change left over to tip her a bit more than 10 percent.
(A “frognab” was a (weird, likely neologized) word appearing in a puzzle on the “Futility Closet” website in which you were asked to figure out the cost of a “frognab.” ron posted the Futility Closet EXACT CHANGE link in his November 13, 10:46 AM comment in last week’s Puzzleria!)
I figured out that one frognab cost 17 cents, so four would cost 68 cents. After you gave Vanna your two coins totaling 75 cents and told her to keep the change, she would pocket a seven-cent tip, which is a 10.3 percent tip on your four-frognab purchase.
(Incidentally, “Seventeen” was the original title of “I Saw Her Standing There,” the opening track on the Beatles' debut album, Please Please Me, released in the United Kingdom by Parlophone on 22 March 1963.)
Finally, in my November 17, 1:20 AM response to ron’s comment about the Sporty Slice, I said that David and my earlier SS riffing (regarding “buying vowels” and “Wheel of Fortune”) coincidentally and unwittingly (on my part, at least) gave a clue the shared surname of the two SS athletes. The third person, one with a major connection to both Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy!, is the late Merv Griffin who created and produced both TV game shows.
LegoPepsiBottleSpecs…TheGridironFor800PleaseAlex
Unable to post earlier.
ReplyDeletePS:
Tiger Woods, Craig Stadler & Jack Nicklaus PLAY GOLF = MIXV DLIC = MDCLXVII or 1667, year of the first blood transfusion & the publication of Milton's Paradise Lost.
CS:
Hale Boggs disappeared on a flight in 1972 from Anchorage to Juneau. NPR's Cokie Roberts, née Boggs, is directly related to Hale Boggs.
The COMET HALE-BOPP reached perihelion in 1997, the same year in which 39 members of the Heaven's Gate religious cult committed suicide.
So the names of the persons are Hale Boggs & Alan Hale & Thomas Bopp and the object is the Comet Hale-Bopp.
POSS:
GOTHAM. “GOT HAM!” Probably not the intended answer.
SS:
FOUR EYES (I's) is the best I can do. If it's SMITH or HILL, I don't know them.
ron, your “Got Ham!” response passes mustard (sic)! No question about it!
DeleteOne more question for you all… a “creative challenge” as Dr. Shortz would put it:
A hallmark of the very successful American Dairy Association “Got Milk?” advertising campaign was to feature celebrities holding half-full (or half-empty, depending on your level of lactose intolerance) glasses of milk and sporting “milk mustaches.”
What might be the visual hallmark of a “Got Ham?” ad campaign?
LeGotHam!
OK, I'm lost; when did the skipper get involved in all of this?
DeleteI've never heard of either of the two Griffins.
DeleteI've heard of the third one; and I've got a lovely bunch of <◊<◊nuts, 'ere they are all standing in a row ...
DeleteI posted on November 17, 2014 at 11:56 PM PST:
ReplyDeleteIn the case of POSS, I actually like the show. I think the show is to <a certain fictional character> as <a recent past television show> was to <another fictional character that's in, let's say the same franchise as the 1st character>.
Ok, revealing all:
I think GOTHAM is to BATMAN as SMALLVILLE was to SUPERMAN. And both Batman and Superman belong to the Action comics - now DC comics franchise. Of course, it would've been too much of a give-away to mention at the time that a new movie is expected to come out next year featuring BOTH OF THEM!!
In my November 18, 2:28 PM comment, I asked Puzzlerians!, in lieu of a “milk mustache,” what might be the visual hallmark of a “Got Ham?” ad campaign?
ReplyDeleteHow about celebrities (of either gender) wearing their hair in pigtails, or else sporting big handlebar mustaches with tips ending in pigtailesque curlicues.
LegoGotHamda?