Friday, August 4, 2017

Brewing beers by shifting gears? Human “Anat-toe-knee” ramifies like a tree; Researching for Needles (pop. 5,000) in Cal-i-forn-eye-haystacks; In pursuit of a pair of POTI

PUZZLERIA! SLICES: OVER (765 + 43) SERVED


Welcome to our August 4th edition of Joseph Young’s Puzzleria! 

Our featured puzzle this week is a clever challenge created by a friend of mine, Nikki Rajala of Rockville, Minnesota. Her creation is an Appetizer titled “Brewing beers by shifting gears?” It involves automobiles and beers: two things that ought never be mixed on the road but can safely be served up in a puzzle parlor such as Puzzleria!

I got to know Nikki when we worked together in a newsroom in St. Cloud, Minnesota. She is a wonderful writer and published author who is on the verge of publishing Book 2 in a series of historical novels about a young French-Canadian voyageur named Andre.  

Merci beaucoup, Nikki, for sharing a slice of your creativity with Puzzleria! (And Kiitos paleon too! ...which Nikki informs me is the Finnish equivalent of the same sentiment).

Also on this week’s menus are seven other chewy challenges:
One Slice not of POT PIE but of POTI,
Five Riffing/Ripping-Off Shortz Slices about Palindrhometowns, U.S.A, and
One Dessert that doubles as an anatomy lesson.

So hop into your auto, take an inventory of its parts, shift into Drive, drive down to Puzzleria!, bite into a slice of POTI, shift some cities and states into reverse and, for Dessert, take an inventory of your body parts.
And, as always, enjoy the ride.

Appetizer Menu

Bland Royalty Appetizer:
Brewing beers by shifting gears?

What brand name for a particular part of an automobile, if you change its last two letters, creates the brand name of a beer?



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Lists Of Leaders Slice:
In pursuit of a pair of POTI

Consider the following two lists of significant leaders who served during the Twentieth and/or Twenty-first centuries:
List A:
List B:


All leaders on List A share something in common. 
All leaders on List B share something in common.
What President Of England 2.0... oops, I mean, what President Of The United States belongs on List A? Explain why. 
Two POTUSes (or POTI, if you prefer a more elegant plural form) appear on List B. Who is the third President Of The United States that belongs on List B? Explain why.
Now explain why the President Of The United States who belongs on List A shares the “something in common” with the other leaders on the list in an extra-special “twofold” way.
Finally, which leader on  List A shares the “something in common” with others on that list in an extra-special “threefold” way. Explain.
Hint: One might argue that both Kim Jong-un and his father Kim Jong-il belong on List A and not List B. But one might also argue that they both belong on List B and not List A.

Ripping Off Shortz And Krozel Slices:
Researching for Needles (pop. 5,000) in Cal-i-forn-eye-haystacks

Will Shortz’s July 30th NPR Weekend Edition Sunday puzzle, created by Joe Krozel, reads: 
This week’s challenge... might require a little research. There is a city somewhere in the United States with a population of about 24,000 people. Change the last letter in the name of its state. If you now read the city plus the altered name of its state together, the result is a palindrome – that is, it reads backward and foreward the same. What city is it?
Puzzleria’s! Ripping Off Shortz Slices read:
ONE:
This puzzle might require a little research. There is an island somewhere in the United States with a population of about 1,600 people. Change the last letter in the name of a state that has something in common with this island that no other state has. If you now read the island plus the altered name of its state together, the result is a palindrome – that is, it reads backward and foreward the same. What island is it? What state shares something in common with the island?
TWO:
This puzzle might require a little research. There is a town somewhere in the United States with a population of about 150 people. Remove the last two letters in its name. If you now read the altered name of the city plus the  name of its state together, the result is a palindrome – that is, it reads backward and foreward the same. What city is it?
Hint: The palindrome is a king’s name sandwiched between half a laugh and a sigh of delight.
THREE:
This puzzle might require a little research. There is a city somewhere in the United States with a population of about four times that of Zion, Illinoiz (sic). Take the state this city is in and move its last letter to the beginning of the city, then discard the remaining letters of the state. If you now read all but the final four letters of this result backward, the result will be a different state. The final four letters of the result, read foreward, appear at the end of several U.S. cities, usually those situated near bodies of water. Althought the city you are to find is indeed situated near a body of water, the four letters at the end of its name are misleading. The city is eponymous. Its entire name is the surname of a pioneer settler in the region. What city is it?
FOUR:
This puzzle might require a little research. There is a city somewhere in the United States with a population of about 24,000 people. Take three consecutive letters from the name of its state. Insert them, in order, somewhere within the name of the city. (where you insert them will depend on which three consecutive letters you choose.)
If you now read the altered name of this city, the result is a number that would seem to be much larger that the population of the city. What city is it?
FIVE:
This puzzle might require a little research. Remove two letters from a state somewhere in the United States. If you now read the altered name of the state backward, the result is the surname of a well known actor or actress. What STATE is it?

Dessert Menu

Tinkering With Frankenstein Dessert:
Human “Anat-toe-knee” ramifies like a tree

Name a word for a human body part. Strings of consecutive letters beginning with the word’s third, fourth and fifth letters spell three other body parts. 
➔Six letters from the word can be rearranged to form plural body parts. 
➔Three letters can be rearranged to form other plural body parts.
➔Five letters can be rearranged to name something that protects body parts.
➔Five letters can be rearranged to name a word meaning physique.
➔Four letters can be rearranged to name a word meaning a body’s shape.
➔Four letters can be rearranged to name a particular collection of hundreds of similar very thin body parts.
What are these ten words related to the human body? 

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54 comments:

  1. I haven't solved the first one yet, but in the meantime:

    What brand name for a particular part of an automobile, if you change its first letter and add a letter at the end, creates the brand name of a beer?

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  2. I'm pretty sure I have the President who fits on List A, and I know what's very unique about him, even though you didn't ask for that, but my eyes are glazing over trying to read all the other stuff I'm supposed to figure out.

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    1. Paul, may I suggest you make an appointment for some glazer surgery at Lego's Opticians, Inc.?

      LegoSays"ComeInTryOurGlazers,BecomeBetterGazers!"

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  3. Good evening from a very HOT HOT HOT Oregon.

    I got lucky (with perusing lists) and solved the Appetizer, although NOT Paul's version of it, yet anyway.

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  4. Happy Friday everyone! My mother's out of town and she took her Kindle with her, so solving any of this may be trickier than usual for the next few days. You'd think I could solve the beer brand puzzle at least, short as it is. Will need hints for EVERYTHING! I don't even know some of the names in those lists. I'll need all the help I can get, because just looking over this week's puzzles I'm batting zero.

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  5. Well, I've been fortunate to succeed with research, and come up with the answers for the first four RIp Offs (although I don't know the commonality for #1). I agree that without substantial hunting around, none of these are solvable. So pjb is cooked if he has no access to a computer or tablet!

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  6. I did just figure out the beer puzzle, but I'm telling you, that's the easiest of the bunch right there!

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    1. That is so true!

      But I don't quite understand, pjb...if you have access to see P!, why don't you have access also to Google?

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    2. It occurs to me, pjb, that you could tackle the fifth Rip off without lots of research, as long as you have access to the 50 state names (and can type them for yourself, backwards...that's what I did...then it's a matter of LOOKING well!)

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    3. Concerning the 5th rip off, Removing 2 letters from a state and reading the result backwards is supposed to yield a surname of an actor & actress, so what CITY is it???? Does not make any sense.

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    4. Ron, there is no city involved in RIp Off #5, only a state.

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    5. Yes. I have the answer, but why did Lego say: "What city is it?"

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    6. Oh, ron, I had missed that he put that in there. Clearly, it was a goof. [Maybe you well knew that and were just being funny. I often have trouble catching on to the jokes both here and on Blaines'.]

      Hey, LEGO.....VTedditor alerting you to remove that last question on Rip OFf 5.

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    7. It was a goof. Sorry. It is fixed. Thanks to both ron and VT for pointing it out.

      LegoTheFallible

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  7. Oh, I finally got the fifth Rip Off. BUt, boy, am I stuck on the Dessert (can't find ANY string of three three-letter body parts, as I think we are meant to assemble them, that work.

    Haven't even attempted, as Paul talked about, the glaze-inducing Leaders slice!

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    1. VT,
      DESSERT:
      "Name a word for a human body part. Strings of consecutive letters beginning with the word’s third, fourth and fifth letters spell three other body parts."
      Let's say the word for the human body part is "SHOULDER."
      In that case, three other body parts would emerge from:
      OULD...
      ULD..., and
      LDE...
      The three body parts that begin "with with the word’s third, fourth and fifth letters" are 4, 3 and 3 letters long.

      LegoWhoSaysClickingOnTheLinksIsUnnecessaryForSolvingTheLOLS

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    2. OHhhh, why did I think that all three words had to be only three letters long? Obviously, ye olde brain didn't computer/read things properly. I shall re-tackle with gusto. Thanks, Lego P.S. "Clicking" on WHAT links? I don't see any links to click on in the Dessert....

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    3. OOps, I realize that you meant links in the Leaders Slice....

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  8. To avoid any further confusion, I'll just say sometimes it's easier to look up answers on my Kindle and then go back to the P! website, and back again. Sometimes it may become necessary to use both Kindles in my research. And, as this week has shown, it can sometimes be too much work to even know where to begin. But I'll eventually get to work on it, though I've just done the 50 states backwards and nothing's come to me yet.

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  9. I know the body part, but only a few of the words made from its letters. Lego's hint especially helped.

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  10. I have the main body part, too, plus the 'string' of parts; the physique; the shape and that which protects. HOWEVER, I am up a creek as to the plural body parts (both six letter and three letter? HOW can there BE 3-letter plural body parts?) Nor can I get the "hundreds of similar very thin parts."

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  11. I believe in this case you should disregard the S that usually represents a plural form. There won't be one here. I do have the three-letter plural word, but the six-letter one still escapes me.

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    1. I think this is a scam.

      My first thought for the "hundreds of similar very thin parts" (prior to Lego's Blainesville hint which unlocked everything for me) turned out to be in the right ballpark.

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    2. Having FINALLY figured out the plural six-letter word, I now understand the first sentence in your post, Paul!

      I still haven't been able to come up with the very thin parts, but figure your mention of ballpark is somehow a hint?

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    3. Got the six-letter plural! What I really need now are hints for the Ripoff puzzles.

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    4. There's nothing very 'hintful' about the word 'ballpark'. I thought about using 'bailiwick'. Anything in that general area would work, as long as you lock into the basic principle.

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  12. Hints:
    ROSAKS:
    ONE:
    Sportage, Sorento or Sedona + half a pedal employed by Clapton, Jimi and George.
    TWO:
    Was the town perhaps named afer a sitting senator from the state?
    THREE:
    I am attempting to couch my hint in cleverness, but sofa I am having scant luck!
    FOUR:
    Think Carl Sagan... on steroids.
    FIVE:
    Remove the extremities from the state, then spell from right to left what's left. Right?

    LegoAddsThatThreeConsecutiveLetters(SpelledBackward)OfTheLastNameOfTheMostFamousCostarAppearingWithFIVE'sActorFormSeventy-FivePercentOfTWO'sStateWhichSharesABorderWithBothFIVE'sStateAndTHREE's"Spelled-BackwardState"

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  13. Got #1, #2, and #5! Can't get the couch/sofa or Sagan references though.

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  14. #4 just came to me! How could I not have thought of it?

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  15. I also still need help with the leaders puzzle. I don't even know where to begin there!

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    1. Who among us hasn't been completely stymied by the Leaders puzzle?

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    2. If you're still stumped on the ROSAKS Slice #3, better call Saul.

      As for the leaders puzzle, study their names. As St. Paul, the former Saul of Tarsus, may say: "The leading letters of these leaders shall lead you to solvation!"

      LegoAdds"AndInTheCasesOfKimJong-unAndKimJong-ilTheFirstShallBeLastAndTheLastShallBeFirst"

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  16. Appetizer:
    Michelin (tires), Michelob (beer)

    Menu:
    List A: First letter of the last name precedes first letter of the first name sequentially in alphabet. Gerald Ford (FG). His birth name was Leslie King! (KL)
    List B: First letter of the first name precedes first letter of the last name sequentially in alphabet. Dwight Eisenhower (DE).
    Martin Luther King, Jr. (JKLM)

    Rip Offs:
    FOUR: Zion, Illinois, add “lli” between the i and o in Zion to yield Zillion.
    FIVE: WYOMING (remove the W & G), reading backwards yields Leonard NIMOY & Susan NIMOY (second wife of Leonard).

    Dessert Menu:
    FOREARM, REAR, EAR, ARM, FEMORA (plural of FEMUR),ORA (plural of OS, or mouth), ARMOR (body protector), FRAME (physique), FORM (shape), REAM of paper.

    For ALL the words that can be made from the letters in “forearm,” click HERE and type in “forearm.”

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    1. ron,
      I didn't even consider the "Jr." part of MLK's name! Great observation. To bad his name is Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., and not ND. Martin Luther King, Jr.

      LegoNotesThat"ND"Denotes"DoctorOfNaturopathy"

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    2. You can use the SAME LINK to find ALL the words that can be made using the letters in "inauguration!" Just type in "inauguration."

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  17. Fun to know about ORA as the plural of OS.

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  18. 43 years ago today, Gerald Ford became "the only person to have served as both Vice President and President of the United States without being elected to executive office". I'd forgotten he had a different birth name.

    I'm still not sure how Martin Luther King got on List B.

    Michelangelo probably didn't celebrate finishing the agonizing task of painting the Sistine Chapel ceiling with a cold Michelob, and my solving that puzzle wasn't nearly as great an accomplishment, but I felt good about it, anyway.
    My variation:
    Meineke [mufflers (or SHOCKS)] >> Heineken

    At first I thought the "hundreds of similar very thin body parts" were the HAIRS which collectively make up the HAIR, so I had the MANE idea ... oh, wait a minute, there's no N in FOREARM, is there? Oops!

    FEMORA, in addition to being the plural of FEMUR, is an anti-aging cream of dubious reputation.

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    1. Paul,
      You are correct about Martin Luther King. He should have been on List A, not List B. My goof. I apologize.

      I really like your Meineke/Heineken piggyback of Nikki's puzzle. I researched car parts brands (I am sufficiently familiar with beer brands!) but came up empty... except to come up with a not-as-clever piggyback puzzle about Bosch car parts and Busch beer.

      LegoSays"AreYourNextDoorNeighborsHostingARaucouslyLoudHeinekenParty?MuffleThemWithMeineke!"

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  19. APPETIZER: MICHELIN and MICHELOB

    LEADERS SLICE: Sadly, no time to digest the hint above (I did NOT look at any solutions that might be there.) Running off to an appt.

    RIP OFFS:

    1. KIAWAH, HAWAIK (ALTERED HAWAII) although Google says the population in 2016 was 1771, not 1600. Kiawah is located off South Carolina. In common: ?

    2. HATCH, UTAH => HATUTAH

    3. DAVENPORT, IOWA => ADAVEN => NEVADA

    4. ZION + LLI from ILLINOIS = ZILLION

    5. WYOMING => GNIMOYW => NIMOY; ALTERNATE ANSWER: OHIO => SANDRA OH

    DESSERT: F O R E A R M String of parts: REAR, EAR, ARM ; Physique = FRAME; Body Shape = FORM; Protects: ARMOR; Plural parts: FEMORA and ORA
    Thin parts(4): ????

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  20. Appetizer
    MICHELIN, MICHELOB
    Menu
    List B has names with their initials in alphabetical order. List A has names with their initials in reverse alphabetical order.
    Ripoffs
    1. KIAWAH, HAWAII
    2. HATCH, UTAH
    4. ZION, ILLINOIS; ZILLION
    5. WYOMING, (Leonard)NIMOY
    Dessert
    FOREARM
    REAR, EAR, ARM
    FEMORA(plural of femur)
    ORA(plural of os, or mouth)
    ARMOR
    FRAME
    FORM
    See y'all Friday!-pjb

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  21. Why in the world can't any of your super intelligent commentators come up with AFRO for the little very thin strands? Dowager Empress

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    1. Congrats, Dowager Empress, and welcome. AFRO is indeed the answer I was looking for... although I admit calling it a "body part" is a tad dubious.

      LegoWhoAgreesThatPuzzlerian!CommentatorsAreSuperIntelligent(AndCreative!)

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  22. This week's official answers, for the record, Part 1:

    Appetizer Menu

    Bland Royalty Appetizer:
    Brewing beers by shifting gears?
    What brand name for a particular part of an automobile, if you change its last two letters, creates the brand name of a beer?
    Answer:
    Michelin (tires); Michelob (beer)

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    Lists Of Leaders Slice:
    In pursuit of a pair of POTI
    Consider the following two lists of significant leaders who served during the Twentieth and/or Twenty-first centuries:
    List A:
    Nelson Mandela, Elizabeth Domitien, Benigno Aquino, Thomas Sankara, Martin Luther King, Narendra Modi, David Cameron
    List B:
    Charles de Gaulle, Olof Palme, John Kennedy, Agatha Barbara, Salote Tubou, Bill Clinton
    All leaders on List A share something in common.
    All leaders on List B share something in common.
    What President Of England 2.0... oops, I mean, what President Of The United States belongs on List A? Explain why.
    Two POTUSes (or POTI, if you prefer a more elegant plural form) appear on List B. Who is the third President Of The United States that belongs on List B? Explain why.
    Now explain why the President Of The United States who belongs on List A shares the “something in common” with the other leaders on the list in an extra-special “twofold” way.
    Finally, which leader on List A shares the “something in common” with others on that list in an extra-special “threefold” way. Explain.
    Hint: One might argue that both Kim Jong-un and his father Kim Jong-il belong on List A and not List B. But one might also argue that they both belong on List B and not List A.
    Answer:
    Gerald Ford (The initials in the names of leaders on List A appear consecutively in the alphabet, in reverse alphabetical order.)
    Dwight Eisenhower (The initials in the names of leaders on List B appear consecutively in the alphabet, in alphabetical order.)
    Gerald Ford's birth name is Leslie King which, like Gerald Ford, has initials that appear consecutively in the alphabet, in reverse alphabetical order. Thus he is a "double sharer."
    Martin Luther King is the leader on List A who shares the “something in common” with others on that list in an extra-special “threefold” way. His first, middle and last name are in reverse alphabetical order.
    Hint: Whether Kim Jong-un and his father Kim Jong-il belong on List A or List B is ambiguous because in Korean culture the family name precedes the given name. In Western culture, the given name usually precedes the family name.

    Lego...

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  23. This week's official answers, for the record, Part 2:

    Ripping Off Shortz And Krozel Slices:
    Researching for Needles (pop. 5,000) in Cal-i-forn-eye-haystacks
    ONE:
    This puzzle might require a little research. There is an island somewhere in the United States with a population of about 1,600 people. Change the last letter in the name of a state that has something in common with this island that no other state has. If you now read the island plus the altered name of its state together, the result is a palindrome – that is, it reads backward and foreward the same. What island is it? What state shares something in common with the island?
    Answer:
    Kiawah (Island), South Carolina
    Hawaii
    What Kiawah Island and Hawaii have in common is that they are islands!
    TWO:
    This puzzle might require a little research. There is a town somewhere in the United States with a population of about 150 people. Remove the last two letters in its name. If you now read the altered name of the city plus the name of its state together, the result is a palindrome – that is, it reads backward and foreward the same. What city is it?
    Hint: The palindrome is a king’s name sandwiched between half a laugh and a sigh of delight.
    Answer:
    Hatch, Utah
    Hint:
    half a laugh = ha (as in ha ha)
    king’s name = Tut
    and a sigh of delight = ah
    Thus: Ha + tut + ah = Hatutah >> Hat(ch), Utah
    THREE:
    This puzzle might require a little research. There is a city somewhere in the United States with a population of about four times that of Zion, Illinoiz (sic). Take the state this city is in and move its last letter to the beginning of the city, then discard the remaining letters of the state. If you now read all but the final four letters of this result backward, the result will be a different state. The final four letters of the result, read foreward, appear at the end of several U.S. cities, usually those situated near bodies of water. Although the city you are to find is indeed situated near a body of water, the four letters at the end of its name are misleading. The city is eponymous. Its entire name is the surname of a pioneer settler in the region. What city is it?
    Answer:
    Davenport, Iowa
    (Iowa - Iow) + Davenport = a + daven + port
    "a + daven" spelled backward is "Nevada"
    "port" appears at the end of many U.S. cities that are ports situated on rivers, gulfs, canals or oceans... such as Mckeesport, Lockport, Freeport, Bridgeport and Gulfport.
    Although Davenport is situated on the Mississippi River, it is not "currently" a riverport. It just so happened to be named after a guy surnamed "Davenport." According to Wikipedia, "Davenport does not have any river ports."

    Lego...

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  24. This week's official answers, for the record, Part 3:

    Ripping Off Shortz And Krozel Slices (continued):
    FOUR:
    This puzzle might require a little research. There is a city somewhere in the United States with a population of about 24,000 people. Take three consecutive letters from the name of its state. Insert them, in order, somewhere within the name of the city. (where you insert them will depend on which three consecutive letters you choose.)
    If you now read the altered name of this city, the result is a number that would seem to be much larger that the population of the city. What city is it?
    Answer:
    Zion, Illinois
    Zion + ill = Z + ill + ion = Zillion; Zion + lli = Zi + lli + on = Zillion;
    A "zillion" is much larger than 24,000.
    FIVE:
    This puzzle might require a little research. Remove two letters from a state somewhere in the United States. If you now read the altered name of the state backward, the result is the surname of a well known actor or actress. What STATE is it?
    Answer:
    Wyoming (Leonard Nimoy)
    Wyoming - (W + g) = "yomin" which, spelled backward, is "Nimoy."

    Dessert Menu

    Tinkering With Frankenstein Dessert:
    Human “Anat-toe-knee” ramifies like a tree
    Name a word for a human body part. Strings of consecutive letters beginning with the word’s third, fourth and fifth letters spell three other body parts.
    Six letters from the word can be rearranged to form plural body parts.
    Three letters can be rearranged to form other plural body parts.
    Five letters can be rearranged to name something that protects body parts.
    Five letters can be rearranged to name a word meaning physique.
    Four letters can be rearranged to name a word meaning a body’s shape.
    Four letters can be rearranged to name a particular collection of hundreds of similar very thin body parts.
    What are these ten words related to the human body?
    Answer:
    Forearm;
    rear; ear; arm;
    femora; ora;
    armor;
    frame,
    form;
    Afro;

    Lego...

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    1. Well, I didn't figure out 'Afro', but I knew what the 'hundreds of similar very thin body parts' were.

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    2. Me too, Paul....I literally wrote down "HAIR" and forced myself to see that the 'h' and the 'i' were NOT in 'forearm'!!!

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    3. Having just noticed Dowager Empress's comment above, in my case, it never occurred to me that we were supposed to think of a STYLE of hair. I just figured that 'Hair' was the whole wrong track, and kept trying to find something else.

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    4. Paul and VT,
      I do apologize. Afro really is a "hairstyle," not really "body parts." Including it was, in retrospect, unfair.

      LegoUnfairHairedBoy

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  25. The worst part of it was that the software only worked intermittently and the data was not accurate. You obviously canot confront anyone about what you have discovered if the information is not rightyaldoeyecenter.com

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